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Answer to conflicts with the Shahadah

Updated: May 30

Good morning and peace to youall , during a conversation with an individual the topic of Shahada came up, this is an exerpt of it and my conclusion based on the Quran. I was reading this thread and after careful examination i wanted to answer some of your opinions and questions you stated and asked an answer for. I will quote it here for you so you do not have to scroll all over to find it: You stated and asked: ""Nothing wrong with adding muhammadan rasulAllah"" ""don’t over exaggerate everything!!!! To acknowledge Muhammad as the last prophet is not a shirk, Shirk in this case would be to say that Mohammed and Allah are equal"" ""why do you lie in my name? I never said anything about necessity. I'm just saying that your exaggerating tremendously for calling it shirk for when people are saying that Muhammad is the messenger of God after saying la illaha illAllah?"" ""Allah says in some verses la illaha ill Allah. And In other verses he's saying that Muhammad is the messenger of God. So what? we can't utter 2 separate verses after one another? So, it's all of a sudden shirk to utter the truth? So, to make the declaration that God is one and that Muhammad is the last messenger, is a sentence of admission that showcase one’s specific faith and qur’anic orientation. If it was shirk to say the transitional shahada, then the following verse should also be shirk to recite. [64:12]"Obey God and obey the messenger. /.../"."" (My Response) First I will post the verses in question provided by you: 3:18 God bears witness that there is no god except He, as do the angels, and those with knowledge, He is standing with justice. There is no god except He, the Noble, the Wise. 64:12 So, obey Allah and obey the Messenger; but if you turn away, then only upon Our Messenger (is) the conveyance clear. Here in verses 3:18 is the evidence of the Shahada, it is very clear and easy to understand and detailed in its meaning and purpose and directly from Allah. I am sure based on the conversation I read that you have no issue with understanding this part so let’s move on to answering your next issue. you stated: "your exaggerating tremendously for calling it shirk for when people are saying that Muhammad is the messenger of God after saying la illaha illAllah" There are a few issues with this statement and a few others you made that are false and miss leading. 1. You say it is an exaggeration 2. you imply that main stream Muslims are only saying/mentioning the Prophet after saying the Shahada. 3. You say there is nothing wrong with reciting two verses together. So, let’s see what the verses say about assumption 1. 6:115 And the word of your Lord has been completed with truth and justice; there is no changing His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower. 10:64 For them are glad tidings in the worldly life and in the Hereafter. There is no changing the words of God. Such is the great triumph. 11:18 And who is more wicked than he who invents lies about God? They will be displayed before their Lord, and the witnesses will say: "These are the ones who have lied about their Lord." Alas, the curse of God will be upon the wicked. 11:1 ALR, a Book whose revelations have been made firm, then detailed, from One who is Wise, Expert. In accordance with the Quran and the words of Allah directly this is the words of Allah and the book is perfected and complete: This first verse alone addresses both issues quite clearly the word of God is complete and there is no changing it. clearly showing that she was not exaggerating the importance not going beyond the bounds of the verses by adding to or taking away from them. As to the second issue in your comment not even the Prophet was immune to changing or adding or taking away from the word of God, we have already established through the few of many verses above that what Nazia Shah stated is not exaggerating in any way. Let’s see what God said to the Prophet directly: 69:43 (It is) a revelation from (the) Lord (of) the worlds. 69:44 And if he (had) fabricated against Us some sayings, 69:45 Certainly We (would) have seized him by the right hand; 69:46 Then certainly We (would) have cut off from the aorta. 69:47 And not from you any one prevents (it). 69:48 And indeed, it (is) surely a reminder for the Allah-fearing. Allah also warns all of those who would change the perfection and claim it to be true or from Allah as seen in the following verse: 2:79 So, woe to those who write the Book with their hands then say: "This is from God," so that they can purchase with it a cheap price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gained. There are many more verses on this subject as well. You make it seem in your comments as if people are reciting two completely different verses independently one after the other when in fact that is also a false and misleading statement. Never when the Shahada is spoken do you hear it from the complete verses from which it is derived, nor is there any separate complete verse that just says, and Mohammad is his messenger. These both are just parts of two complete verses that have been mashed together to create another or statement/verse all together of which has been clearly prohibited in the verses above to do. We haven't even discussed the topic about proclaiming that Muhammad is God's messenger. This is by definition "Shirk" (idolatry) and a flagrant defiance of God and His messenger. Additionally, it violates the major commandments in 2:136, 2:285, 3:84, & 4:150-152 prohibiting any distinction among God's messengers. By proclaiming that "Muhammad is a messenger of God," and failing to make the same proclamation for other messengers such as Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Saleh, and Jonah, a distinction is committed, and a major commandment is violated . In summary: I agree, acknowledging that saying Muhammad is the last prophet is not a shirk, what is shirk is adding it to the verses of the Quran and claiming it to be correct and mandatory, and not including all other messengers in equal terms. It is by no means an exaggeration to say it is shirk to add to the Shahada when the verses provided clearly dispute this understanding. It is also very clear that it is prohibited by Allah to add or take away from the verses in any way, not even the Prophet was immune to this. Ask any main stream Muslim what the shahada is, and they will unequivocally say: “there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger Allah."" If you dispute this they will absolutely without question under no circumstances accept anything else as correct, they will not say oh I am just saying this verse after the shahada verse as your comment clear suggest. If you would like I can go deeper and provide the verses that talk about not setting partners with Allah etc. but I think you understand what I am saying. I hope this gives some answer to your comments/questions. Peace, Muslim Mike 😊

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